Minutes: ASR Round Table October 1998
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SUBJECT UNIT DELEGATE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ====================================================================== Opening remarks CINCSF/Chair Makela Roll ALLIANCE/Sec Dahl Docket ALLIANCE/Sec Dahl Closure of Roll/Secretary Nomination CINCSF/Chair Makela Start of Discussion Motion of No Confidence TEMPEST Snyder Acceptance of Nomination for Secretary ALLIANCE/Sec Dahl P98.01.01 ALLIANCE/Sec Dahl Point of Information (Nomination/VNC) CSFO Nagumo Re: Point of Information (Nom/VNC) CINCSF/Chair Makela Re: Motion of No Confidence STONEWALL Harrington Point of Information (Discuss VNC?) CALLISTO O'Conor Point of Information (Discuss VNC?) COMLOG Finocchiaro Re: Point of Information (Discuss VNC?) OMEGA Hill Re: Motion of No Confidence SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Order (Multiple Seconds) QUASAR Coffman Point of Information (Discuss VNC?) LEVIATHAN Speake Re: Point of Information (Discuss VNC) CINCSF/Chair Makela Re: Point of Order (Multiple Seconds) OMEGA Hill Re: Point of Information CINCSF Makela Re: Point of Order (Multiple Seconds) CINCSF Makela Re: Point of Information OMEGA Hill Re: Point of Order (Multiple Seconds) CINCSF Makela Motion of No Confidence CINCSF Makela Re: Point of Order (Multiple Seconds) OMEGA Hill Point of Information (Chair Status) AURORA Nichols Acceptance of Nomination for Secretary PERSEPHONE Pettey Begin Discussion of Motion to Begin Acting Chair Nagumo Vote of No Confidence Out of Order (Hill) Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Discussion of Motion to Begin VNC TEMPEST Snyder Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Apology FNS Tripp Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Information (Confirm Sec) SUFFOLK Drake Discussion of Motion (VNC) FNS Tripp Discussion of Motion (VNC) PROMETHEUS Loeblich Discussion of Motion (VNC) QUASAR Coffman Debate on Motion of No Confidence ENDEAVOUR Cabrero Point of Information (Closing Argument) ENDEAVOUR Cabrero Discussion of Current Motion TEMPEST Snyder Discussion of VNC Motion AURORA Nichols Discussion of Current Motion DEL.@LARGE Makela Re: Point of Information (Close Argue) Acting Chair Nagumo Discussion of Current Motion QUASAR Coffman Motion to the Chair (Sandlin) EXCALIBUR Burns Re: Motion to the Chair (Sand.-denied) Acting Chair Nagumo Discussion of Current Motion FNS Tripp Point of Information (ListServ) QUASAR Coffman Re: Discussion of Current Motion PROMETHEUS Loeblich Discussion of Current Motion 716th Young Point of Information (VNC) PROMETHEUS Loeblich Motion to Move to an Immediate Vote SUFFOLK Drake Re: Point of Information (ListServ) Acting Chair Nagumo Motion to Move to an Immediate Vote LEVIATHAN Speake Discussion on Current Motion LEVIATHAN Speake Motion to Move to an Immediate Vote(OB) CALLISTO O'Conor Objection of Motion to Move... FNS Tripp VNC Discussion CINCGREEN Catterick Discussion of Current Motion QUASAR Coffman Point of Order CINCRED Green, S. Discussion of Current Motion RESOLUTION Schalk Re: Discussion of Current Motion VICTORY Gant Re: Discussion of Current Motion FNS Tripp Re: Motion to Move to Immed. Vote Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Discussion of Current Motion TEMPEST Snyder Point of Information QUASAR Coffman VNC Discussion CINCRED Green, S. Re: Point of Information (VNC) (Definition of 'no confidence') Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo (Ruling on Quasar Delegate) Re: VNC Discussion CALLISTO O'Conor Discussion on the Current Motion OMEGA Loeblich Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Discussion of Current Motion QUASAR Coffman (Posting Levels) Discussion of Current Motion QUASAR Coffman Point of Order CALLISTO O'Conor Point of Information (ListServ) SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Order? YORKTOWN Levanoni Discussion of the Current Motion COMLOG Finocchiaro Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Order (Yorktown OOO) Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Discussion of Current Motion FNS Tripp Discussion of Current Motion (VNC) FEYNMAN Felsher VNC Discussion HERAKLES Groner Point of Information (What is PAG?) HERAKLES Groner Re: Discussion of Current Motion LEVIATHAN Speake Discussion of Matter at Hand CINCSILVER Dawe Re: Debate on the Motion SFFR7 Green, J. Of No Confidence Discussion of Current Motion TEMPEST Snyder Discussion of the Motion to Begin VNC SFDITF Dailey Discussion of Current Motion DAEDALUS Balzen Re: Debate on the Motion VICTORY Gant Of No Confidence Re: Debate on the Motion A.NEVSKY Bennett Of No Confidence Discussion of Current Motion OMEGA Hill Re: Discussion of Current Motion DEL@LARGE Makela Re: Discussion on the Current Motion DEL@LARGE Makela Re: Discussion of Current Motion DEL@LARGE Makela Re: Discussion of the Current Motion DEL@LARGE Makela Re: Discussion of the Current Motion QUASAR Coffman Re: Discussion of Current Motion PERSEPHONE Pettey Discussion of Current Motion PERSEPHONE Pettey Move for Immediate Vote FNS Tripp Discussion of the Current Motion RESOLUTION Schalk Re: Discussion of Current Motion PROMETHEUS Loeblich (Posting Levels) Re: Move for Immediate Vote (2nd) PROMETHEUS Loeblich Discussion of Current Motion (VNC) CINCINDIGO Jenkins Re: Discussion of the Current Motion SFFR7 Green, J. Re: Discussion of Current Motion Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Move for Immediate Vote Acting Chair Nagumo (24 Hours to Object) Re: Move for Immediate Vote (Objection) CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Point of Information (PAG) Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Information (Authority) CALLISTO O'Conor Point of Information (Assumptions) QUASAR Coffman Point of Personal Privilege (Apology) QUASAR Coffman Point of Order CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Debate on Motion of No Confidence DEL@LARGE Makela Re: Move for Immediate Vote Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Discussion of Current Motion DEL@LARGE Makela Re: Point of Information (Authority) Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Debate on Motion of No Confidence CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Point of Information (Assumptions) Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Information CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Debate on Motion of No Confidence DEL@LARGE Makela Discussion of Current Motion (VNC) YAMATO Reich Re: Debate on Motion of No Confidence SFFR7 Green, J. Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Discussion of Current Motion DAEDALUS Balzen Discussion of VNC Motion SFDITF Dailey Re: Debate on Motion of No Confidence DEL@LARGE Makela Re: Debate on Motion of No Confidence VICTORY Gant Re: Move for Immediate Vote YORKTOWN Levanoni Re: Move for Immediate Vote (2nd) AURORA Nichols Point of Information CORONA Braun VNC Discussion HERAKLES Groner VNC Debate CINCRED Green, S. Motion to Expel QUASAR Coffman Re: Point of Information (Erratum) QUASAR Coffman Point of Information QUASAR Coffman Point of Information RESOLUTION Schalk Re: VNC Debate DEL@LARGE Makela Point of Information (Correction) RESOLUTION Schalk Re: VNC Debate CINCINDIGO Jenkins Point of Personal Privilege ALLIANCE Dahl RE: Move for Immediate Vote Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Personal Privilege Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Information AURORA Nicholls Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Discussion of VNC NOVA Johnson Motion to Expel LEVIATHAN Speake Re: Motion to Expel Acting Chair Nagumo Be Ashamed NELSON Suskind Motion to Expel NELSON Suskind Re: Point of Order (Motion to Expel) SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Order QUASAR Coffman Re: VNC Debate SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Order SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Information QUASAR Coffman Re: Motion to Expel CINCSILVER Dawe VNC Discussion (Closing Arguments) QUASAR Coffman Point of Information QUASAR Coffman Re: VNC Debate DEL@LARGE Makela Re: Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Motion to Expel Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo End of Discussion Period/Beginning of Voting Period Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Information SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Information CINCRED Green, S. Point of Information PERSEPHONE Pettey Point of Personal Privledge CINCRED Green, S. Point of Personal Privledge CINCINDIGO Jenkins Motion to Expel 21-MTFW Randles Voting Results: VNC VALIANT Bostjancic Voting Result/Parliamentary Points/ Relinquishing the Chair Acting Chair Nagumo Appology CINCINDIGO Jenkins Point of Information AURORA Nicholls Re: Point of Order CINCSILVER Dawe Point of Information QUASAR Coffman Withdrawal of Motion LEVIATHAN Speake FW Personal Privledge FNS Tripp Reassuming the Chair, Moving On CINCSF/Chair Makela Whatever! CENTERPOINT Harris Point of Information CINCSF/Chair Makela Re: Motion of Discussion CHARLEMAGNE Barrett Re: Point of Information CINCSF/Chair Makela Points of Order QUASAR Coffman Proposal P98.02.01 EXCALIBUR Burns Re: Points of Order CINCSF/Chair Makela Motion of No Confidence FNS Tripp Move to OPen Discussion COMANC Meushaw "Thankyou & Goodnight !" CENTERPOINT Harris Re: Whatever! DAEDALUS Balzen Motion of Discussion DAEDALUS Balzen Motion to change the agenda CINCINDIGO Jenkins Point of Order CONSTELLATION Bowman Request to be removed LEVIATHAN Speake Re: Motion to change the agenda PROMETHEUS Loeblich 2xExcused, 2xCensure, 1xExpulsion CINCSF/Chair Makela Motion to Appeal the Chair TEMPEST Snyder Objection to Motion CORONA Braun Seconding Motion CORONA Braun Motion for Discussion, POO, and Motion to change agenda CINCSF/Chair Makela Point of personal privilege 716th Young 'Apology' and Simple Request SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Order STONEWALL Harrington Motion to Appeal FNS Tripp Motion to Adjourn CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Motion to Adjourn CALLISTO O'Conor Objection to Motion to Adjourn SB ALIGHIERI Muir Objection to motion to adjourn 716th Young Point of Personal Priviledge SFDITF Dailey Formal Apology DAEDALUS Balzen Acceptance of Apology QUASAR Coffman Motion to Expell SFDITF Dailey Re: Motion to Appeal the Chair SFDITF Daily Words of Wisdom SFDITF Daily Note from the Chair CINCSF/Chair Makela Order and Chaos VICTORY Gant Point of Personal Privlege CORONA Braun A Personal Plea CALLISTO O'Conor Motion to change the agenda PROMETHEUS Loeblich Motion to Change Agenda TEMPEST Snyder Apology FNS Tripp The Future SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Order/Revision of Previous Motion CINCINDIGO Jenkins Call to Order Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Personal Privledge PERSEPHONE Pettey Begin CINCSF Nomination Period Acting Chair Nagumo NOMINATION FOR CINCSF ENDEAVOUR Cabrero Point of Information ENDEAVOUR Cabrero Nomination for CINCSF PERSEPHONE Pettey Seconding of CINCSF EXCALIBUR Burns Re: NOMINATION FOR CINCSF PERSEPHONE Pettey Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo Re: NOMINATION FOR CINCSF Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Information (was NOMINATION FOR CINCSF) EXCALIBUR Burns Re: Point of Information (was NOMINATION FOR CINCSF) Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Nomination for CINCSF SORANUS Bell Declining the Nomination Acting Chair Nagumo Second of CINCSF Nomination COMANC Meushaw Nomination for CINCSF HERAKLES Groner Re: Nomination for CINCSF AURORA Nicholls Nomination for CINCSF SFDITF Dailey Acceptance of CINCSF Nomination PROMETHEUS Loeblich Poing of personal privledge VICTORY Gant Re: Point of personal privledge Acting Chair Nagumo Point of personal privledge HERAKLES Groner Note from the Chair Acting Chair Nagumo Re: Point of personal privledge Acting Chair Nagumo Point of personal privledge CENTERPOINT Harris Point of Information EXCALIBUR Burns Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Nomination for CINCSF COMALB Fontaine ReL Nomination for CINCSF CORONA Braun Acceptance of the Nomination CINCINDIGO Jenkins / Acceptance of Nomination TRAFALGAR Elwell Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo /Commander-in-Chief, Starfleet Election Discussion TRAFALGAR Elwell Close CINCSF Nomination Period/Begin Discussion Period Acting Chair Nagumo CINCSF Election Discussion PROMETHEUS Loeblich CINCSF Discussion QUASAR Coffman Point of Information QUASAR Coffman Re: Point of Information Acting Chair Nagumo Re: CINCSF Discussion SFFR7 Green, J. Commander-in-Chief, Starfleet Election Discussion TRAFALGAR Elwell Discussion RESOLUTION Schalk CINCSF Discussion CINCINDIGO Jenkins Discussion PROMETHEUS Loeblich CINCSF Discussion (Community Standards) QUASAR Coffman CINCSF Discussion COMLOG Finocchiaro Discussion NECESSITY Menz CINCSF DISCUSSION HERAKLES Groner CINCSF Discussion PERSEPHONE Pettey CINC-SF election discussion TRAFALGAR Elwell CINCSF Discussion ALLIANCE Dahl CINC-SF discussion TRAFALGAR Elwell CINCSF Discussion TRAFALGAR Elwell CINCSF DISCUSSION HERAKLES Groner CINCSF Discussion 716TH Young CINCSF Discussion TRAFALGAR Elwell CINCSF Discussion 21-MTFW Randles CINCSF Discussion CINCSILVER Dawe CINCSF Discussion (Community Standards) PROMETHEUS Loeblich CINCSF DISCUSSION (Fleet In Trouble) PROMETHEUS Loeblich CINCSF Discussion (Admin Shifts) PROMETHEUS Loeblich CINCSF Discussion (Personal Quality Asssessment) PROMETHEUS Loeblich CINCSF Discussion COMALB Fontaine CINCSF Discussion (Unit in Trouble) PROMETHEUS Loeblich CINCSF Discussion (Time) PROMETHEUS Loeblich Re: CINCSF Discussion (Admin Shifts) PROMETHEUS Loeblich CINCSF Discussion CINCINDIGO Jenkins CINCSF Discussion HERAKLES Groner CINC-SF Election Discussion TRAFALGAR Elwell CINCSF Discussion ALLIANCE Dahl CINCSF Discussion PERSEPHONE Pettey CINCSF Discussion COMLOG Finocchiaro CINCSF Discussion CALLISTO O'Conor CINCSF Discussion REGENT Monforton CINCSF Discussion QUASAR Coffman Re: CINCSF Discussion QUASAR Coffman Re: CINCSF Discussion VICTORY Gant Re: CINCSF Discussion QUASAR Coffman Re: CINCSF Discussion CINCSILVER Dawe CINCSF Discussion TRAFALGAR Elwell Re: CINCSF Discussion RESOLUTION Schalk Points of Order CORONA Braun Point of Order PERSEPHONE Pettey Point of Personal Priviledge HOUSTON Gilbertson Re: Points of Order Acting Chair Nagumo CINC-SF Election Discussion (closing statement) TRAFALGAR Elwell Re: Point of Order Acting Chair Nagumo CINCSF Discussion HOUSTON Gilbertson Re: CINCSF Discussion CINCINDIGO Jenkins CINCSF Discussion (A Few Comments) QUASAR Coffman Re: CINCSF Discussion CINCINDIGO Jenkins Re: CINCSF Discussion CINCINDIGO Jenkins CINCSF Discussion RESOLUTION Schalk ASR RT: CINCSF Discussion (A Few Comments) SFFR7 Green CINCSF Discussion COMLOG Finocchiaro Point of Personal Privilege CENTERPOINT Harris End of CINCSF Discussion Period/Begin Voting Period Acting Chair Nagumo CINCSF Discussion SFFR7 Green Voting Results: CINCSF Election VALIANT Bostjancic Election Results/Parliamentary Points/Relinquishing Chair Acting Chair Nagumo Point of Personal Privilege CSFO Nagumo Point of Personal Privilege SFFR7 Green, J. Assumption of the Chair CINCSF Jenkins Voting Results (Revised): CINCSF Election VALIANT Bostjancic Nominations of CSFO/RT Secretary, Beginning of Discussion CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Motion for Simultaneous Discussion TEMPEST Snyder Motion to Alter Time Limit for Discussion ALIGHIERI Muir RT Secretary Nomination VALIANT Bostjancic Motion to End Debate SFDITF Dailey CSFO Nomination Acting CSFO Nagumo Re: Motion to Alter Time Limit for Discussion EXCALIBUR Burns Motion to End Debate CALLISTO O'Conor Motion to end debate HERAKLES Groner Ruling on Motion CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Apology CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Apology CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins End of Discussion/Start of Voting CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Voting Results: CSFO Confirmation VALIANT Bostjancic Voting Results: RT Secretary Confirmation VALIANT Bostjancic Close of Voting/Voting Results CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Officer Reports CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins CSFO's Report to the Round Table, October 1998 CSFO Nagumo Start of Discussion P98.01.01 CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Discussion of point 9 AURORA Nicholls Re: Discussion of point 9 VICTORY Gant RE: Discussion of point 9 AURORA Nicholls Discussion of P98.01.01 QUASAR Coffman Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 VICTORY Gant Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 QUASAR Coffman Discussion, Proposal 98.01.01 EXCALIBUR Burns Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 SFFR7 Green, J. Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 COMANC Meushaw Discussion of P98.01.01 RESOLUTION Schalk Re: ASR RT: Discussion of P98.01.01 VICTORY Gant Point of information HERAKLES Groner Discussion of P98.01.01 PERSEPHONE Pettey Still more discussion AURORA Nicholls Re: Points of Information CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Point of Information HERAKLES Groner Discussion of P98.01.01 VALIANT Bostjancic Discussion of P98.01.01 CALLISTO O'Conor Point of Information AURORA Nicholls Discussion of P98.01.01 CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 SFFR7 Green, J. Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 CSFO Nagumo p98.01.01 Discussion CINCGREEN Catterick Discussion of P98.01.01 RESOLUTION Schalk Chair's Mail problem. CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Re: Point of Information CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Point of Information YAMATO Reich Discussion of P98.01.01 (A Defense of Sorts) ALIGHIERI Muir Point of Personal Privelage CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 (A Defense of Sorts) TRAFALGAR Elwell Re: Point of Information CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Point of Order QUASAR Coffman Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 QUASAR Coffman Point of Information SFFR7 Green, J. Point of Order TEMPEST Snyder Point of Information QUASAR Coffman Motion to end debate CALLISTO O'Conor Re: Motion to end debate ALLIANCE Dahl Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 SFFR7 Green, J. Discussion of P98.01.01 PROMETHEUS Loeblich Re: Point of Order CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 CHARLEMAGNE Barrett Motion to Divide the Question YAMATO Reich Re: Motion to end debate CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Re: Point of Information CINCSF/Chair Jenkins Discussion of P98.01.01 COMLOG Finocchiaro Re: Motion to Divide the Question COMLOG Finocchiaro Re: Discussion of P98.01.01 ALIGHIERI Muir Discussion P98.01.01 CINCSILVER Dawe Re: Start of Discussion P98.01.01 NEVSKY Bennett P98.01.01 (Some Final Thoughts) QUASAR Coffman End of Discussion/Beginning of Voting. CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Voting Results: P98.01.01 VALIANT Bostjancic End of Voting/Rulings CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Apologies QUASAR Coffman Proposal P98.02.01 VALIANT Bostjancic Apologies and PoPP SFFR7 Green, J. Apology ALIGHIERI Muir Point of Personal Privilege EXCALIBUR Burns Proposal P98.02.02 VALIANT Bostjancic Proposal 98.02.03 CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Start of Discussion/Re: Rulings CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Re: Start of Discussion/Re: Rulings EXCALIBUR Burns Re: Discussion P98.02.01 PROMETHEUS Loeblich Withdrawal of Proposal P98.02.02 CORONA Braun Re: Discussion P98.02.01 AURORA Nicholls P98.02.01 Discussion CALLISTO O'Conor P98.02.03 Discussion CALLISTO O'Conor Re: ASR RT: P98.02.01 Discussion AURORA Nicholls P98.02.03 Discussion AURORA Nicholls Re: P98.02.01 Discussion COMANC Meushaw Proposal Discussions CALLISTO O'Conor Discussion P98.02.03 VALIANT Bostjancic Proposal Discussions CALLISTO O'Conor Discussion P98.02.03 RESOLUTION Schalk Re: Discussion P98.02.01 QUASAR Coffman Passing of Gavel CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Proposal discussion HERAKLES Groner Re: Passing of Gavel CSFO Nagumo Point of Information SFFR7 Green, J. Re: Point of Information CSFO/Act. Chair Nagumo Documentation Proposals CINCINDIGO Jenkins Documentation Proposals HERAKLES Groner Discussion of Current Proposals TEMPEST Snyder Point of Personal Privilege TEMPEST Snyder Relinquishing the Chair (again) CSFO/Act. Chair Nagumo Re: Relinquishing the Chair (again) CINCINDIGO Jenkins P98.02.03a CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins End of Discussion/Beginning of Voting CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins Voting Results: P98.02.01 VALIANT Bostjancic Voting Results: P98.02.03a VALIANT Bostjancic ASR RT: End of Voting/Voting Results CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins ASR RT: October 1998 Honor Roll CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins ASR RT: End of Session CINCINDIGO/Chair Jenkins ====================================================================
Voting Results
- Results of CINCSF Vote
- Results of CSFO Confirmation
- Voting Results for Proposal 97.01.01
- Voting Results for Proposal 98.02.01
- Voting Results for Proposal 98.02.03a